I don't know what your replies were mate, but hopefully you learned your lessons as i see the mod was taken down either by your or itch.io team. Again, don't listen to AJ, you will get in trouble..
I never listened to AJ. I made up my mind by reading the TOS, and what Giants has actually said, instead of relying on others. Ive work with intellectual property rights for a long time, and I have a good understanding of this type of stuff.
I temporarily took the mod down as I'm releasing a different version that really changes the mod.
You definitely listen to AJ, i have people in the server, i know what is going on. You definitely didn't read the TOS, otherwise you would know that Giants don't own people's mods and you can't do whatever you want. The creator can take actions towards you if he decides to as it is stated in Giants TOS (Chapter 7). It doesn't matter what you change, it doesn't matter if you call it "edit", if the creator doesn't want the mod to be edited and reuploaded, he has the rights to demand removal of the mod. Since you still think you can do whatever you want, we will keep reporting you and your itch.io page until it is taken down. Keep listening to AJ and keep making a bad name of yourself in the community, it won't end well for you i guess, but ofc it is your choice at the end. I'm trying to give you good advice, despite the fact you mocked me before.
Like here: The creator retain (keep/have) the rights over the content (mod) he created. He just gives rights of use to Giants Software. You aren't Giants Software, therefore you don't get those rights automatically.
"GIANTS shall not be liable for the actions of other users which may infringe rights to the generated User Generated Content. In the case of disputes with other users, the Customer himself shall be responsible for contacting the affected users asserting any claims." Which basically mean that the creator can take actions towards you if he wants to.
It states basically that Giants isnt going to intervene. But you also ignore everything previous to this statement which lays out what rights Giants has over the items.
You need to read the entire section. Its not that they retain full rights, but they retain some rights. You glossed over that. You also skip over where Giants then grants it's users rights to the creations.
It's not worth debating you. You warn that I will get a bad name in the community, but you already do. Why would I listen to you?
And I haven't mocked you. I don't respect you because you act like a child and throw tantrums instead of having actual discussions. But I don't mock you. I mean, if me pointing out your childish behavior is mocking, I guess you're right.
Again, I've made my decision, my opinion, on my own reading and my background with dealing with intellectual property rights. To make false claims of anything else just shows why it's not worth debating with a person who resorts to logical fallacies.
I have a bad name? Just because a few retards like you talk shit, lies and what not about me, doesn't mean im having bad name, ask anyone outside AJ trash hole server and lets see how bad i am. I'm not the one acting childish, just because you don't like the truth and you start spreading lies, talk shit and what not and i go and defend myself, doesn't mean i'm childish lmao. But anyway, no point arguing with someone that can't read or understand simple sentences. You don't have any rights over other's people creations and you can't release stuff without creator's permissions.
Lets look at the TOS, which you in fact violate. If we look at section 6, which deals with creating of mods, which is dine through the fact Giants has freely given use of their software, we are told in 6.2, any mod created via GE is for purely personal use. That eliminates commercial use, and thus paid mods, in anyway. 6.3 clarifies this by saying all mods need to be distributed freely, and not for any gain. These are terms we all agree on. And 6.4 limits how mods can be distributed as to prevent them being sold. Now 6.6 makes it clear these aren't Giants mods they are referencing, as 6.6 forbids the practice of deceptively packaging your own mods as if they are made by Giants.
Section 7 then spells out the scope of rights. 7.1 says users retain rights to the content they create, but they grant Giants the right to use the content. 7.3 states that as soon as content is created, rights are granted to Giants. Those rights are that Giants can do anything with those mods, for as long as they want, and that the user has no moral rights to those mods.
Giants then grants rights to other users to use that creation. In context, it states that users can also modify distribute, transfer, etc., that creation. There are exceptions, but those are outside the scope of the game and Giants editor. We know this because Giants again clarifies that. And Giants makes is extremely clear that they have a very wide liscense to everything created in Giants Editor, and they have granted their users usage rights as well. You have to read all of that in context.
Now, I don't expect this to convince you of anything, as you're after all selling mods while claiming to know the TOS. But for those interested, it may clarify things.
Just because you are making assumptions that Giants gives you rights to modify and distribute other people's work doesnt mean it is true lmao. Literally no where in 7.3 it says that giants give rights to people to edit and re-upload modders work lmao.. Learn to read, learn to understand. Give me the exact sentence where it is said that Giants gives rights to you to edit and distribute other people's creation. Matter of fact, Giants can't give you any rights, because they don't own the creation....
No one gives you any rights. It just says that the creator should acknowledge that other people can use his work. It doesn't say that they can edit or reupload it.. smh...
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I don't know what your replies were mate, but hopefully you learned your lessons as i see the mod was taken down either by your or itch.io team. Again, don't listen to AJ, you will get in trouble..
I never listened to AJ. I made up my mind by reading the TOS, and what Giants has actually said, instead of relying on others. Ive work with intellectual property rights for a long time, and I have a good understanding of this type of stuff.
I temporarily took the mod down as I'm releasing a different version that really changes the mod.
You definitely listen to AJ, i have people in the server, i know what is going on. You definitely didn't read the TOS, otherwise you would know that Giants don't own people's mods and you can't do whatever you want. The creator can take actions towards you if he decides to as it is stated in Giants TOS (Chapter 7). It doesn't matter what you change, it doesn't matter if you call it "edit", if the creator doesn't want the mod to be edited and reuploaded, he has the rights to demand removal of the mod. Since you still think you can do whatever you want, we will keep reporting you and your itch.io page until it is taken down. Keep listening to AJ and keep making a bad name of yourself in the community, it won't end well for you i guess, but ofc it is your choice at the end. I'm trying to give you good advice, despite the fact you mocked me before.
Like here: The creator retain (keep/have) the rights over the content (mod) he created. He just gives rights of use to Giants Software. You aren't Giants Software, therefore you don't get those rights automatically.
Then it says:
"GIANTS shall not be liable for the actions of other users which may infringe rights to the generated User Generated Content. In the case of disputes with other users, the Customer himself shall be responsible for contacting the affected users asserting any claims." Which basically mean that the creator can take actions towards you if he wants to.
It states basically that Giants isnt going to intervene. But you also ignore everything previous to this statement which lays out what rights Giants has over the items.
You need to read the entire section. Its not that they retain full rights, but they retain some rights. You glossed over that. You also skip over where Giants then grants it's users rights to the creations.
You are just stupid
It's not worth debating you. You warn that I will get a bad name in the community, but you already do. Why would I listen to you?
And I haven't mocked you. I don't respect you because you act like a child and throw tantrums instead of having actual discussions. But I don't mock you. I mean, if me pointing out your childish behavior is mocking, I guess you're right.
Again, I've made my decision, my opinion, on my own reading and my background with dealing with intellectual property rights. To make false claims of anything else just shows why it's not worth debating with a person who resorts to logical fallacies.
I have a bad name? Just because a few retards like you talk shit, lies and what not about me, doesn't mean im having bad name, ask anyone outside AJ trash hole server and lets see how bad i am. I'm not the one acting childish, just because you don't like the truth and you start spreading lies, talk shit and what not and i go and defend myself, doesn't mean i'm childish lmao. But anyway, no point arguing with someone that can't read or understand simple sentences. You don't have any rights over other's people creations and you can't release stuff without creator's permissions.
even giants hates you lol
Lets look at the TOS, which you in fact violate. If we look at section 6, which deals with creating of mods, which is dine through the fact Giants has freely given use of their software, we are told in 6.2, any mod created via GE is for purely personal use. That eliminates commercial use, and thus paid mods, in anyway. 6.3 clarifies this by saying all mods need to be distributed freely, and not for any gain. These are terms we all agree on. And 6.4 limits how mods can be distributed as to prevent them being sold. Now 6.6 makes it clear these aren't Giants mods they are referencing, as 6.6 forbids the practice of deceptively packaging your own mods as if they are made by Giants.
Section 7 then spells out the scope of rights. 7.1 says users retain rights to the content they create, but they grant Giants the right to use the content. 7.3 states that as soon as content is created, rights are granted to Giants. Those rights are that Giants can do anything with those mods, for as long as they want, and that the user has no moral rights to those mods.
Giants then grants rights to other users to use that creation. In context, it states that users can also modify distribute, transfer, etc., that creation. There are exceptions, but those are outside the scope of the game and Giants editor. We know this because Giants again clarifies that. And Giants makes is extremely clear that they have a very wide liscense to everything created in Giants Editor, and they have granted their users usage rights as well. You have to read all of that in context.
Now, I don't expect this to convince you of anything, as you're after all selling mods while claiming to know the TOS. But for those interested, it may clarify things.
Just because you are making assumptions that Giants gives you rights to modify and distribute other people's work doesnt mean it is true lmao. Literally no where in 7.3 it says that giants give rights to people to edit and re-upload modders work lmao.. Learn to read, learn to understand. Give me the exact sentence where it is said that Giants gives rights to you to edit and distribute other people's creation. Matter of fact, Giants can't give you any rights, because they don't own the creation....
I spelt it out clearly, listing where the relevant material is. You have insults. Not a valid rebuttal, and clearly a waste of my time.
No one gives you any rights. It just says that the creator should acknowledge that other people can use his work. It doesn't say that they can edit or reupload it.. smh...